Plagiarism in the public sphere is nothing new. Luminaries from Stephen Ambrose to Martin Luther King, Jr., have been accused of stealing other people's creative ideas. Stand-up comedians, though, have not generally been held to the same ethical standards as other public figures. A notoriously derivative genre, comedy has bred a culture of thievery as far back as 19th-century vaudeville. In the 1950s, one-line legend Milton Berle poked fun at his own thievery, once saying that a comedian made him laugh so hard, "I nearly dropped my pencil."
Comedian Carlos Mencia has been accused of stealing jokes from everyone from Bill Cosby to George Lopez.
Carlos Mencia
These days, however, stand-ups take charges of plagiarism far more seriously. "Stealing jokes is the steroids of comedy," comedian Steve Hofstetter tells Gelf. "The root of comedy is truth, and if you're doing someone else's truth, you're not doing comedy."
Joke theft has become a particularly hot issue thanks to the recent public feud between Fear Factor's Joe Rogan and Carlos ("Mind of") Mencia. At a February show at the Comedy Store in Los Angeles, the two comics had a verbal spat in which Rogan accused Mencia of stealing material. An edited video of the confrontation soon appeared online and, within days, had been viewed hundreds of thousands of times. (Neither Rogan nor Mencia responded to Gelf's requests for comment for this article.)
That video opened a floodgate of accusations among comedians and observers, who uploaded dozens of videos onto YouTube, meticulously dissecting comics' routines and theorizing about who lifted what from whom. Famous comics, including Dane Cook and Robin Williams, were accused of taking whole cloth from their peers.
Of course, it's easy to watch a video clip and promptly conclude that the comedians in question are stealing; when the viewer sees two comics back-to-back talking about seemingly identical ideas, it seems like case closed. But many comics caution that there is an important distinction between stealing jokes and using similar premises. For instance, a Mexican-border-wall routine Mencia supposedly took from Ari Shaffer is so simplemindedly stereotypical that one YouTube video shows four different comicsand a folk singersaying essentially the same line.
"But who do you think's going to build the wall? Mexicans!"
Rogan's anti-Mencia diatribe isn't his first foray into thievery-accusations. Last December, Rogan went on the Opie and Anthony radio show (mp3) and made comments about comedic powerhouse Dane Cook, using audio clips of Cook and fellow stand-up Louie CK running through similar routines (You can see a video comparing the routines here.)
Rogan is quite sure that Cook is a thief, and other stand-ups like Dan Smith also have trouble explaining away Cook's coincidental routines. "It's hard to deny that there are an awful lot of coincidences [in his routines]," Smith says.
But other comics chalk up the similarities to parallel thinking. "Dane tackles very familiar concepts, which lends itself to people thinking he's stealing," comedian Dwayne Perkins says. (Cook didn't respond to Gelf's request for comment for this article.)
Several comics tell Gelf that the Cook controversy just highlights the tendency for comics to be criticized once they find mainstream success. "It's always the comics that make it that are thieves all of a sudden," Hunter says. "It's human nature to take out the guy on top."
There's nobody more "on top" then Cook, whose two-disc Retaliation was the highest-charting comedy album since Steve Martin's Wild and Crazy Guy in 1978. "There's probably a certain sadness that this [kind of popularity] can only happen once every 20 years," Stone says. "For every Dane Cook, you're always going to have 50 bitter comics in the back room saying, 'Why aren't I that guy?' "Hofstetter disagrees somewhat with this premise that comedians only take out popular comics, citing Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock as world-famous comedians who have never had the authenticity of their jokes questioned. And Smith adds that Mencia and Cook had bit-stealing reputations in the comedy community long before they became famous.
If the Mexican routine was the false positive of joke theft, Bill Cosby's bit about football is the undisputed steroids test for Mencia. Comic Dan Nainan says he was "shell-shocked" when he saw a video comparing Mencia and Cosby's versions of the joke. Hofstetter says that this clip represents perhaps the clearest instance of plagiarism he has seen. "Cosby's delivery has a very long set-up, whereas [Mencia's] is typically ‘punch-punch-punch,' " he says. "When you are doing a joke that's not even in your style, it becomes pretty obvious."
While most of the comics Gelf talked to were happy to discuss specific accusations of plagiarism, many others are unwilling to talk about the issue. In the Rogan video about Mencia, Rogan is seen talking informally to comedian Bobby Lee, who, when asked to repeat one of Mencia's jokes, said that he could just use one of his own jokes and it'd "be the same thing." Within weeks of Rogan putting the video online, though, Lee uploaded his own response, saying that he had never had a joke stolen by Mencia. "There's this unspoken rule in comedy that you're not supposed to shit on other comedians." Hofstetter says. "[Calling someone a joke thief] is like pointing at a guy at the street and saying 'he's a rapist.' "
Comedian Kyle Cease says that the current comedy culture creates an unhealthy and overly suspicious environment among comics. "When people are just blindly throwing out accusations with comedians, you are playing with fire," he says.
"It's got to be a pattern when you accuse someone," Hofstetter adds. "If it's one or two things, you could have seen them edited or out of context."
There's also an undeniable hierarchy of joke-stealing, in which comics who regularly appear on TV are often assumed to have written the routines. Cease says he's seen situations in which comedians with similar routines agree that the first person to put it on TV gets to use it. Smith avoids performing in front of Mencia for precisely that reason. "He's on TV everyday," Smith says. "He has the power to make me look like the thief."
"There's this unspoken rule in comedy that you're not supposed to shit on other comedians."Stand-up comic Steve HofstetterThe whistle-blowing Rogan has emerged relatively unscathed considering his vitriolic attacks on comedians, with even pro-Mencia comics admitting that they admire Rogan for his obvious passion for stand-up. His status as a rich, famous comic/actor gives him a platform that lesser-known comedians lack. "He's in a good position to confront Mencia," Smith says. "It takes someone in power to call out someone else in power."
The Mencia kerfuffle has highlighted the different expectations that different forms of media face. "I can't wait for the day when comedians' jokes are treated with the same amount of respect as writers," Smith says. "Because that's what comedians are: writers who perform what they write."
Related on the Web
February’s Radar Magazine includes an impressive look at the history of plagiarism in comedy.




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